Small Steps … My Journe Journey

Aug 16, 2010,21:40 PM
 

I credit François-Paul Journe with my interest in ‘modern’ horology. Seven years ago I picked up a watch magazine while transiting Singapore airport and sat on the plane mesmerised by pictures of the Tourbillon Souverain. Daydreaming about that watch certainly helped pass the time on the return flight home, and it has been my grail amongst grail watches ever since.

 

I remained patient and happy to wait until the day I would have my own tourbillon. But I recently decided to put my ‘toe in the water’ with my first Journe.

 

I had thought about a Chronomètre Souverain for some time, and even decided at the HK Boutique last year that the 40mm case best suited my wrist (even though I preferred the 38mm version in photos). However the opportunity arose to obtain an early Octa Rèserve de Marche in platinum with a honey-coloured yellow gold dial and brass movement.

 

I enjoy horological history and the Octa RdM is a watch that held so much promise for Journe as a young company. The Octa RdM was introduced in 2000 and completed the initial offering of three watches from F.P.Journe (along with the Tourbillon Souverain and the Chronomètre a Rèsonance).

 

So why an Octa RdM and not another iconic Journe piece, such as the Resonance or CS? Personally I gravitate towards simple watches. The RdM has the classic Journe aesthetic with that instrument-like, sterling silver subdial secured with a polished steel frame. The screwed-on YG dial, contrasting with the Pt case, is also something that I associate with Journe; an unusual and almost signature colour combination.

 

As is well known, FPJ designed the 30mm x 5.7mm Cal. 1300 movement (so designated because the 13 ligne movement (1 mm=0.443296 L) was introduced in the year 2000) to accommodate additional complications, such as calendar and lunar phase displays and a chronograph, while retaining the elegant and wearable 38.3mm x 10mm proportions of the 2-piece Octa case. While FPJ had always intended to produce movements in gold, up until 2004 the movements were executed in rhodium-plated brass. I do, however, like the contrasting 22K RG rotor with the ‘silver’ bridges of the original movement.

 

The innovation of the Octa was, of course, the extended power reserve with constant torque. FPJ achieved this by using a 1m long x 1mm wide (and quite soft) mainspring developed in conjunction with specialist spring manufacture Generale Ressorts in Biel/Bienne, Switzerland. This provided five days (120h) of autonomy off the wrist and an additional 30+ hours with less rigorous chronometry. At its introduction this was the longest power reserve that had been achieved in an automatic watch. Journe emphasised this long power reserve with the large Rèserve de Marche indicator arcing across the left side of the dial.

 

We have had many discussions in the past about the benefits and need for power reserve indicators on automatic watches, but personally I like to know the state of wind of my automatics. Some have suggested that the watch doesn’t deserve such a prominent PR indicator, but I enjoy the balance it brings to the dial, the acknowledgement of the value of such an indicator on an automatic watch, and being able to observe the ‘charge’ of the mainspring as I go about my daily activities. The changing position of the pointer, not to mention the lovely tapering blued hand, provide additional interest to the face of the watch.

 

The other feature of the Octa (which has been extended in the subsequent Cal. 1300-2 and 1300-3 iterations), is the efficiency of the winding system. This original Cal 1300 has bi-directional winding. [The name “Octa” was coined by Mr Journe to highlight the perpetual (automatic) winding system of his watch. While not strictly derived from Greek or Latin, where “octa” usually denotes the number 8, you can easily grasp the concept of infinite/continuous winding if you use your imagination.]

 

In fact the automatic Octa could be the ultimate WIS watch because of the long autonomy off the wrist. If I want to wear a different watch for a couple of days, or even several watches on the same day, then there is no problem with the Octa; it won’t get in a huff and stop running if I haven’t worn it for a while.

 

Chronometry is important to me and I keep a close eye on the ‘performance’ of my watches. Although not COSC certified, I like the fact that FPJ focuses on chronometry with the large (10.1mm), high-inertia, 4-arm balance poised in 5 positions using inertia blocks (and beating at a leisurely 21,600vph or 3Hz) as well as the stable (850g of) torque already mentioned. This focus is carried through all Journe timepieces. In fact in the first week the RdM was on my wrist, it deviated from the reference time by only 2 seconds and demonstrated no difference in accuracy on or off the wrist or in different resting positions; remarkable in my experience.

 

And I also like the nod to history with the “F.P.Journe Invenit et Fecit” (Latin: invented and made/produced) printed on the dial which harks back to the inscription on pocket watches produced by French horologers when their movements were recognised as original by the Royal Academy of Sciences.

 

The watch is extremely comfortable and balanced to wear with the additional weight of the Pt case, the 20mm wide (but short and thin) lugs, soft, non-tapering strap and simple pin buckle (my preferred method of fastening for a dress watch and also in Pt). In fact this is the first thing I noticed when strapping on a Journe timepiece; more than any other watch it feels like you are wearing a comfy, well worn pair of slippers.

 

The case itself is simple and elegant and I like the offset dial to the right of the main dial. The time can be read with the watch discretely peeking out from under a cuff. The Glashütte Original and A. Lange & Söhne watches (until the automatic Lange 1) never felt quite right in this respect.

 

There is quite a lot of open space on the dial of the Octa RdM, but this adds to the allure of the watch for me. As it stands, the large date (which can be quickly set with the knurled crown) and PR indicator provide all the day-to-day information that I need. The date change is instantaneous and always occurs within 90 seconds either side of midnight.

 

The YG dial contrasting with the Pt case is quirky and interesting and lends versatility to a watch that is, at first glance, more dressy. The Octa RdM works equally well at the office, cocktail party, concert or BBQ (and in that vein is as versatile as my Rolex Submariner, Ref. 5513, although very different of course). And the flame-blued hands, set against the Pt case, are a lovely combination that warms the heart of any horological tragic.

 

And so this original F.P.Journe Octa Rèserve de Marche with its signature Journe colours, expansive dial and brass movement both held and hold a certain promise of things to come, not only for F.P.Journe as a company but also for me personally in my quest for that grail tourbillon.

 

Andrew

 

 

The basic Octa building block






Perfect at work …









… and at rest …









A variety of moods …











Platinum pin buckle



Cal. 1300 automatic movement






And for Pplater …





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a beautiful, informative report!

 
 By: amerix : August 17th, 2010-01:13
Now I know what I am - a horological tragic. Amery

Don't call me names ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 18th, 2010-18:58
Hi Amery, Here is an earlier thread where we tried to work out what to call ourselves . Interestingly, horological tragic wasn't meantioned, but I am happy to take credit for coining a new term, and I give you permission to use it as often as you want! A

What's in a name when taking a walk

 
 By: amerix : August 20th, 2010-09:39
Hi Andrew, I do prefer it to WIS. Example: "Object HT Amerix was sighted walking down the Boulevard de Paix wearing an undefinable object on his left wrist. A crowd soon formed and immediately began throwing flowers in his direction, bowing down, lighting... 

can tell you really love this watch....

 
 By: Hororgasm : August 17th, 2010-03:36
how long have you owned this watch? sadly, my close to 5 years ownership (of the Octa reserve in YG) experience is sadly unhappy though. i love the asethetics of the watch, and even a watch idiot like me could appreciate the beautiful movement. but, after... 

Date change ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-05:25
So that's the Horor part of Hororgasm?! The internet chatter on the date wheel issue was that it was due to an excess of lubricant and possibly some over tightening of a component of the date mechanism. The precise details were never made clear from Montr... 

Wise choice, Andrew.

 
 By: ling5hk : August 17th, 2010-05:11
In terms of the functions and dial layout, it is quite similar to Lange 1 Daymatic. May I have your view on comparison of these 2 watches? Regards Ling

The ALS Lange 1 Daymatic – some thoughts

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-19:40
Hi Ling, There are of course some similarities between the Lange 1 and the Journe designs, particularly with the offset dials. It’s interesting that while I have found the Journe pieces warm and romantic, the Lange 1 always struck me as a very clinical de... 

Divine Lange 1

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-20:07
And while we are thinking about Golden Ratios , King Johann also turned his eye to the Lange 1. Perhaps it explains some of our emotional reactions to these watches. A...  

I concur, Andrew. Thanks. [nt]

 
 By: ling5hk : August 17th, 2010-22:21
No message body

a beautiful watch

 
 By: raphmeister : August 17th, 2010-06:05
huge congrats... makes me miss my rdm oh so much wear it in the best of health. cheers, raph

Congratulations and thanks for the interesting post

 
 By: respo : August 17th, 2010-06:18
It is great to read what you have written and photographed of this beautiful watch. I can see this as a great first (and even only) FPJ watch to own. I admire the "simmplicity" of it, even thoiugh it has the trdemark features of the clasi FPJ watch. The d... 

jumping in on Bach

 
 By: amerix : August 17th, 2010-07:51
The photo of the RdM on the CD cover is fantastic !!! A visit to the FP Journe site will tell you that KJ is in tune with the principle of resonance. Unfortunately I do not know the recording. But coming from ECM one can be sure that it will - well - also... 

Not to sidetrack Andrew's wonderful post

 
 By: DaMctosh : August 17th, 2010-08:28
but Amerix, I've always been curious about Gould's mumbling during the Goldberg recordings. What's the story there?

many stories about that

 
 By: amerix : August 17th, 2010-08:52
and how he drove his producers and recording engineers to distraction. But it was more singing than mumbling for him. Sometimes an unused hand would go floating off to conduct an invisible (and unneeded) orchestra, while he was shaping a phrase. At least ... 

Talking about Bach's

 
 By: schen : August 17th, 2010-21:38
Well-Tempered Clavier and Goldberg Variations, I must confess they are among my most cherished music. I am glad to find that here in this wonderful forum we are not only connected by great watches, but also by great music. My favorite WTC recordings are L... 

Well-Tempered Jarrett …

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-18:52
Thanks Respo, You grasped exactly what I was trying to convey in my story. I will explain the Journe-Jarrett-Pplater-AndrewD connection in another post, but for a quick comment on Keith Jarrett’s interpretation of J.S.Bach’s Well-Tempered Clavier I would ... 

I am going to give both Jarrett and Gould a listen

 
 By: respo : August 18th, 2010-07:40
I liked the link to the photo of the Hofstadter book from your earlier thread. I read that extraordinary work many, many years ago. That is also probably worht a re-read. Best, respo

Worth a re-read while listening to Bach ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 18th, 2010-14:01
I like to dip back in to my favorite parts, particularly with Bach playing in the background. And you have given me an idea for an M.C. Escher thread on Time Out this weekend! Andrew

The Jarrett Connection …

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-19:04
Many of you will know that there is a link between Keith Jarrett and the Journe Resonance . Pplater and I are both Jarrett fans, and have been known to be independently listening to the same piece of music on opposite sides of the continent at the same ti...  

Talking about Keith Jarrett

 
 By: schen : August 17th, 2010-21:03
I love his music. Last year I went to his concert where he played with Gary Peacock and Jack DeJohnette. It's so wonderful. I also admire his great taste as shown in his watch collection. I still have the catalog of a 2006 Antiquorum auction in which more... 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

 
 By: pplater : August 17th, 2010-22:48
"Aw, shucks..." Just working through your [sensational!] post now, as a quick lunchtime distraction, and of course the pictorial Jarrett reference leapt off the page. Nice touch, Andrew, and thanks for the gesture - it's 'off to the pool room' with that o... 

Good read and nice pics!

 
 By: DaMctosh : August 17th, 2010-08:22
Thanks Andrew for this post and congratulations on a beautiful Octa RDM. The brown stitching on the strap goes very well with the gold dial. Do keep us updated as your FPJ quest continues!

SImple and Poetically Beautiful....

 
 By: CL : August 17th, 2010-08:30
That's all one need. Congratulation. *CL

Journe Watches are truly special

 
 By: jkingston : August 17th, 2010-09:25
Very well done story. Journe's watches are magnificent. Jeff

Congratulations.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : August 17th, 2010-11:51
Enjoy it... A gorgeous watch... Cheers

There's something about Journe...

 
 By: pingtsai : August 17th, 2010-12:24
My husband's modern horologic journey began with Journe as well. Walking through the small shop in Switzerland, the Journe watches definitely commanded attention, especially the tourbillon. We heard the story and learned about the movement from a very pat... 

Feeling

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-15:24
Hi Ping, Thanks for your story and comments. You have cut right to the centre of my love for Journe timepieces. When most other decisions I make about watches are made rather intellectually (from the 'head' if you like), Journe watches reach an emotional ... 

Nothing is wrong with those kind of basics ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : August 17th, 2010-14:09
and sometimes it is the best you can get. It shows a lot of the fantastic FPJ DNA and doesn´t cost a fortune. Even better YOU like it Your choice is very nice and I really appreciated to read your journey. Congrats! Oliver

Wonderful post

 
 By: Nomer : August 17th, 2010-14:40
Sometimes you see a watch and it's just a watch, but then you hear a story like yours and a relationship develops and it's not just any watch but something special. It reminds me a bit of an excerpt from some recent bed-time reading for the children; Anto... 

Great quotation

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-15:50
That's a wonderful and very appropriate quotation, Nomer, and I appreciate the sentiment very much. There are thousands of watches out there, many of them very nice watches, but finding the right watch for 'you' is a rare thing. Andrew

" . . . but finding the right watch . . .

 
 By: Dr No : August 18th, 2010-09:33
. . . for you is a rare thing." Everyone reading these words is nodding in assent. Could "resonance" have a metaphysical meaning in addition to the physical? Is there a subjectively "perfect" watch? Topics for further discussion . . . cordially, Art

On your last picture ...

 
 By: nilomis : August 17th, 2010-15:12
You summarized all. Classic but not Gothic. Enjoy your Journe. Cheers, Nilo

Thanks Nilo ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-19:53
Journe manages to channel traditional watchmaking and gothic sensibilities with a modern twist. Someone long ago described the designs as "retro-futuristic", which I tend to agree with. Jules Verne meets particle physicist? A

Divine proportion …

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-16:02
Luca Pacioli (1446-1517) wrote “ De Divina Proportione ”, published in Venice in 1509, to explain the mathematical concept of Golden Ratios* (aka Divine Proportions, Golden Proportions, Golden Numbers) and their relationship to art and nature and forms th...  

King Johann's great illustration pictures

 
 By: schen : August 17th, 2010-20:47
of Octa RDM and Lange 1 have been my references as well. I am a big fan of Lange and Journe. In fact, these are the two modern watch brands (some other very "small" independents aside) that I like the most. Since I found them, I always tend to relate thes... 

Thanks for sharing this nice story...

 
 By: Goh : August 17th, 2010-16:53
and nice pictures too. This version of PT with yellow dial and brass mvmt is very beautiful. Best, Goh

Espresso crema …

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-17:18
The Journe YG dial takes on different personalities under different lighting conditions. Sometimes it’s matt, other times granular, and it varies from bright and shiny to rich and dark. Just as I like my espresso. This particular bag of Intelligentsia Bla...  

Andrew, I love it!

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : August 18th, 2010-21:47
Coincidentally, I made a latte for my wife this morning and pulled a shot for myself with Black Cat. And I am likely to be at Intelligentsia tomorrow, as I am playing hookey from work to spend the day with a friend from college who is coming into town for... 

The Numerology of Journe

 
 By: AndrewD : August 17th, 2010-17:43
The funny thing I realised later was that I committed to buying my first F.P.Journe watch precisely on François-Paul’s 53 rd birthday. And the watch arrived at my home on the 22 nd (it had only been in the house a few minutes and I was taking p...  

Wonderful post and congrats on the beautiful Octa RDM

 
 By: schen : August 17th, 2010-20:28
To my eyes, the Octa RDM, along with Resonance and Tourbillon Souverain (especially in PT with YG dial for all three) are the classic trio of Journe. I must confess that at the beginning I didn't quite like Octa RDM as I felt too much emptiness on the dia... 

Nice story, nice watch, nice music . . . nice sleeves.

 
 By: mkvc : August 17th, 2010-20:39
This is the post that has it all!

Andrew, what a marvellous report you have crafted regarding..

 
 By: Topcat30093 : August 18th, 2010-09:28
Your new and lovely looking Journe as your photos clearly demonstrate. But not have you succeeded with your thread. It has greatly increased my knowledge of classical music. Something that I didn't realise would happen when I first started to read your th... 

The Calendrier ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 18th, 2010-13:57
Thanks Topcat, pleased you enjoyed my ramblings. I tried to bring a lot of technical information into the review as well. It's useful to have a reference for such knowledge in the future. The Calendrier was the other Journe that I have come close to getti... 

My Antipodal Brother

 
 By: aaronm : August 18th, 2010-10:36
At this point drawing out the points of agreement seems silly, so I'll simply add that I hadn't worn my Journe in several weeks due to the weather, but had just put it on and gotten to my office when I saw this post. On the other hand, putting milk in cof... 

More resonance ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 18th, 2010-16:06
Hi Aaron, I have been wearing it daily for the last few weeks, and pleased that we can share the enjoyment of these watches across the world. It sounds like this thread has encouraged a few others to strap on their Journe's too. If it's not too politicall... 

Apparently I'm a Kiwi

 
 By: aaronm : August 18th, 2010-21:13
Since I like my coffee as "All Blacks" Something about the affect of milk/cream on coffee i dislike. For me it's usually a mug from the french press in the AM, and if I want something while at work, I have an aeropress, which works surprisingly well, and ... 

Congrats Andrew!

 
 By: SJX : August 19th, 2010-01:36
FPJ is an unusual combination of elegance and innovation. - SJX

Thanks SJX ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 19th, 2010-04:09
There are very few modern/new watch companies that take such strong historical cues (helping us to feel immediately comfortable) and combine them with a modern but unique design palette. I particularly love Journe for that reason, amongst many. Andrew

Inspirational Journe

 
 By: bs22fly : August 24th, 2010-01:19
Congratulations on an excellent choice and wonderful addition. I love the whimsical "lego" photos and symbolic choice of CD cover! I haven't spent much time on the forums recently and yours post gives me good reason to return!

Thanks Brad ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 24th, 2010-01:34
Pleased you liked my first Journe, one of many I hope, and a nice place to start. The Journe Forum and the enthusiasm of yourself and other collectors certainly fed my desire over a number of years. Great to finally join the club. Hope to read much more f... 

I am late to the party...

 
 By: dxboon : August 24th, 2010-07:01
...but enjoyed reading this post very much. The watch was gorgeous to see in person while you were visiting, and looking at the photos brings back good memories of your sojourn in LA. I love this FPJ and it remains high on my wishlist of pieces from Journ... 

Never too late, Daos ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 24th, 2010-15:41
That trip was the first time I had worn the Journe for an extended period, so I also associate the LA visit with this watch. Pleased you liked it. Here's a shot from Intelligentsia to bring back memories:...  

That was such a fun outing! :-)

 
 By: dxboon : August 24th, 2010-22:34
I still get the giggles every time I picture you smelling, tasting your espresso. Very serious...just like wine tasting! LOL! Love it! Daos

Pity Jed couldn't join us

 
 By: AndrewD : August 24th, 2010-23:01
And the coffee was very good, particularly the espresso / short black. Andrew

It is stunning!

 
 By: AlexSunrise : August 30th, 2010-09:34
Andrew, What a wonderful watch to crown your passion in watchmaking. With all respect, specs aside, the thing I enjoyed the most (and to which I must thank you for sharing it with me) is the way you aquired it, and how it waited for you in the hands of on... 

Still smiling ...

 
 By: AndrewD : August 30th, 2010-13:56
Hi Alex, Pleased you found this thread. You were one of the first to see the Journe and it looked good on your wrist too! And yes, I haven't stopped smiling yet. In fact I have become a bit of a horological 'boring old f*rt' because I wear it for the majo...