The finishing is not industrial, but also not at the level of Patek etc.

Jan 11, 2024,15:13 PM
 

I was lucky to be able to own or handle most of Venus based rattrapante chronographs with the exception of Paul Picot and Parmigiani: Franck Muller, Daniel Roth, Panerai, GP, UN. Daniel Roth had a best finishing by far, fairly close to the likes of Patek. The finishing of the rest is ok, but nothing special: the levers were beveled, but the quality of beveling wasn't great, the countersinks weren't beveled, the bridges and cocks have Geneva stripes, but its quality was not at the level of the best. That still doesn't diminish appeal of Venus rattrapante chronographs. They all are exceptionally rare and fun to own. I find UN most interesting because they all had soccer minutes totalizer: 45 min instead of usual 30.


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Girard-Perregaux ref 9017 with a Venus 179 movement

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 24th, 2023-04:14
From the archives … (pics from an auction house and from other online sources) Ö- Retrrapante vertical column mono-pusher chronograph. Ö- Manual wind. Ö- 40 mm case diameter. Ö- Solid gold case and applied Arabic numbers and hands. Ö- Heat blued central c...  

Lovely watches with a beautiful movement one could once also

 
 By: hora12reborn : November 24th, 2023-05:57
find in the Paul Picot Atelier 310.

And I think also in Ulysse Nardin.

 
 By: dedestexhes : November 24th, 2023-07:13

Yes panerai secured a few Venus 179 movements

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 24th, 2023-10:11
As well at the auction. But I believe the GP execution and finishing of them to be the best.

Hmm 🤔… I don’t recall UN having a Venus 179

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 24th, 2023-10:07
Happen to have the ref? Thanks

Thanks. Didn’t know UN too 👍🏻

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 24th, 2023-12:51
Sharing another link I just found:

Oh nice. I didn’t know Parmigiani

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 28th, 2023-08:36
Used the Venus 179 as well. Thanks 🙏🏻

Yes 🙌

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 24th, 2023-10:10
A batch of 50 Venus 179 movement/ were found and went to auction. GP, Paul Picot and Panerai bought them. Was there one more company in that list …? Hmm 🤔 The finishing done by GP is considered the best between the the other 2 brands from what I have read... 

White gold

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 24th, 2023-10:04
Very few were produced: White gold : 5 Pink gold: 14 Yellow gold: 5 There were also 5 in Platinum and 2 in Titanium 🤗

A better picture of the white gold

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 24th, 2023-10:17
Enter text ...  

Me too ☺️

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 24th, 2023-13:28

;)

 
 By: amanico : November 24th, 2023-15:07

Agree … Hidden gems of the GP neo vintage era under

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 24th, 2023-10:13
The Macaluso family ownership Luigi Macaluso signature on the certificate.

Beauty !

 
 By: Aquaracer1 : November 24th, 2023-18:02
Enjoy!

Neo vintage baby ☀️👍🏻

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 25th, 2023-12:29

Simply amazing reference

 
 By: Derreck : November 24th, 2023-21:23
Especially the red gold one for me

Me too. Red gold and black dial.

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : November 25th, 2023-12:28
I Will need to get a pair. Ivory dial platinum and black dial red gold. Good to have dreams … 😃

Yes

 
 By: Derreck : November 25th, 2023-19:21
Never ending dreams of beautifully polished intricate ticking time devices. We should create an association that buys watches for his members so everybody in this forum can try and wear a huge number of watches that normally wouldn’t be able to wear in a ... 

Fantastic watch, real feast for the eyes, thanks for this!

 
 By: smironov : January 9th, 2024-20:17
BTW, looking at this movement pictures would anyone be able to comment on the level of finishing vs. Lemania-based chronos from Patek, Breguet and Vacheron please? Thanks!

You are welcome.

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : January 10th, 2024-01:01
To answer your question on finishing, I think as good as what you see on Lemania movements from patek etc. The main thing about this GP is the Venus 179 movement is much more rare and no longer in production. So finishing aside, it’s more about the calbre... 

Thanks Mark

 
 By: smironov : January 10th, 2024-11:06
of course I get the story about this movement, but still interested in understanding whether it is finished industrially or above that. It is clearly not the level of AD17 from Atelier de Chronometrie but hope it is somewhere close to Patek 5070. Thanks.

The finishing is not industrial, but also not at the level of Patek etc.

 
 By: MrkK : January 11th, 2024-15:13
I was lucky to be able to own or handle most of Venus based rattrapante chronographs with the exception of Paul Picot and Parmigiani: Franck Muller, Daniel Roth, Panerai, GP, UN. Daniel Roth had a best finishing by far, fairly close to the likes of Patek.... 

Thanks so much, MrkK, very interesting.

 
 By: smironov : January 11th, 2024-19:22
And indeed lucky you to be able to own or even just handle many of these rarities!